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Casting out Demonic Spirits with the Gift of Discernment: Meghan Blanc's Story - Latter-Day Lights

• Scott Brandley and Alisha Coakley

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When the harrowing force of darkness takes over your very being, would you heed its warning and fortify your faith?

From what first appeared as an ominous warning sign on her patriarchal blessing, devoted stay-at-home mom, Meghan Blanc, recalls her bone-chilling encounter with a demonic spirit that took over her body in a state of oppression—a life-changing event she describes as an urgent wake-up call to strengthen her spiritual shield.

Initially dismissing it as a sudden episode of physical illness, she soon realized there was nothing coincidental about the invasion, making the connection to the once-overlooked reading. But instead of giving in to fear, Meghan shares how this dramatic clash with evil ultimately ignited a more powerful conviction to serve, uplift, and protect her family—both biological, and those soon-to-be welcomed through foster care adoption.

Meghan's testimony stands as a vivid reminder that when Heavenly Father allows us a glimpse into the realm of the adversary, it’s an invitation to draw even closer to the Savior. Join us as we uncover how Meghan’s encounter with Satan’s attacks became a pivotal catalyst for her unwavering discipleship, renewed purpose, and an unshakable promise that the Lord’s hand is ever-present—even in life’s most frightening trials.

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Scott Brandley:

Hi everyone, I'm Scott Brandley.

Alisha Coakley:

And I'm Alisha Coakley. Every member of the church has a story to share, one that can instill faith, invite growth and inspire others.

Scott Brandley:

On today's episode we're going to hear how a terrifying encounter with a demonic spirit taught one woman the importance of building her spiritual shield by small and simple acts of faith. Welcome to Latter-day Lights. Hi everyone, welcome back to another episode of Latter-day Lights. We're so glad you're here with us today and we're really excited to welcome our special guest, Meghan Blanc, to the show. Meghan, welcome.

Meghan Blanc:

Hi Scott, Hi Alisha, how are you guys doing?

Alisha Coakley:

We're good. We're good. Thanks so much for reaching out to us. We really appreciate it. We have not had your story yet and I'm like, tis the season it is. I don't want to ever have any type of like encounters, but I love hearing about them and they're scary but they're like so interesting. So I I'm so excited to go over your story today and just to kind of like talk about what we can do to protect ourselves and how we can, you know, avoid things like that. But but I love it. So thanks so much for being brave and for reaching out to us on that.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, you're welcome. It just kind of was listening to the podcast when I'm like you need to go on there, I'm like no, I don't.

Alisha Coakley:

Your husband, who's hiding in the background right now and won't come on camera with you, right?

Meghan Blanc:

Pretty much. He doesn't have the same story, so it's fine.

Alisha Coakley:

Very true. Well, before we get into that, do you want to share a little bit about yourself?

Meghan Blanc:

Sure, I always thought this would be kind of funny because I'm not the most interesting. So I was actually raised in Las Vegas. My parents bumped around a little bit. So I was actually born in California near LA area. We lived in Utah for a short period of time. My dad went to law school, but I was really raised in Las Vegas proper. Technically it was in paradise. So I was off the strip but kind of near the strip and my parents actually moved there for work. But my mom's family was already there. So it kind of worked out well. I grew up with my parents and my younger brother and my mom mostly mom's big family was there too. So my mom is the oldest of nine and so most of her siblings were there. So they had about seven of them at one point all together in Las Vegas. So it was nice to be around a bunch of people together. So I've been raised and active in the church my whole life I'm not a convert together. So I've been raised and active in the church my whole life. I'm not a convert, I'm not like. I just kind of grew up that way. I've never been active or anything else. So it's been kind of a smooth ride.

Meghan Blanc:

I went to college at BYU Idaho and I met my sweetheart there. He was from California and I was from Las Vegas, so we were never going to just bump into each other. Yeah, we actually are. We're both night janitors in the physical facilities building from Las Vegas, so we were never gonna just bump into each other. Yeah, um, we actually. We actually are. We're both night janitors in the physical facilities building, which, if you're not familiar with BYU Idaho, is called the heart building, and so we always will joke that when you do like introductions like oh yeah, he captured my heart in the heart building, but it's the physical facilities buildings like the least romantic building on campus. He swept you away pretty much. Yeah, I know. So we actually started talking while we were cleaning the locker rooms during the summer break.

Meghan Blanc:

We just cleaned the ceilings and I was cleaning the walls and it was not the most romantic setting. I was not even cute. I had no makeup on I usually wear contacts. So I was. They all shared these men's boots, so like I was like my least cute outfit ever to get, like you know, dirty yeah, so I was like in my like grossest looking form and he's like, oh, she's cute. I'm like, really, that was the like. That's how you meet your future husband is when you're grubby.

Alisha Coakley:

But but that's awesome Because then anything after that is going to be, you don't even have to try.

Meghan Blanc:

That's what I figured.

Alisha Coakley:

But I was the youngest.

Meghan Blanc:

That was my cutest point in life. I'm not most likely to be cuter than that. I wowed him, though I tried on a date, so we actually. It's only seven week break for BYU-Idaho, so it actually was six weeks that year, so we spent most of our waking hours together. Since we work nights, we've started like 1130 and ended at 430 in the morning, wow, and so we'd spend like most waking hours together. Obviously, we had to sleep too. And then by the time we started officially dating to the time we were engaged was our 20th day of being dating. Oh my gosh, we didn't make it a month, um, so we actually. And then we were married during the winter break, just before christmas. Our anniversary is the shortest day of the year in terms of daily hours wow, so I know.

Meghan Blanc:

So like that's a pretty whirlwind romance, um, which is funny because summer romances don't work out, but ours did, um, that's cool. So yeah, so we've been happily married for over 12 years, kind of smooth sailing there. Um, I actually got my bachelor's degree in soul short, but I got it like a month before my oldest daughter was born. So there's that. And then I actually started my life as a stay-at-home mom like right from the get-go. So pretty much my poor husband had to work, go to school, help his wife out. I know we have four biological children, plus one on the way. Aw, thank you. We're also currently preparing for home study so we can be ready to adopt teenagers through foster care. Oh my gosh that's amazing.

Meghan Blanc:

We're probably gonna double our numbers from four children to eight by next year wow, you're in it, yeah yeah, wow, that's a big deal, yeah, especially teens why, teenagers. I we felt kind of just called to. I worked with young women and um so with social work. I did two internships before I um got a degree and so we worked in the drug and counseling part with like teen, like I was in the teen group so I would sit there with the teenagers, listen to problems and it's like these are trouble teens.

Meghan Blanc:

They're not little church teens, I know, but um, I just I kind of like teenagers. I think they're funny, I think that they they're closer to adulthood, adulthood, so they have, you can talk to them closer to adults, but you still have a lot to teach them. They have a lot to teach you. So I, I like teenagers. My oldest daughter is going to be in young women's next year with me, anyway, nice, so I'm almost there, gotcha.

Meghan Blanc:

And my husband's four years older than me, so he's old enough to have teenagers. And I was feeling like you're old, you're like really, really old to have teenagers. And I was feeling like you're old, you're like, really really old. Fun fact so when 9-11 happened, he was in high school and going to seminary and I was in elementary school, going, you know, just watching a TV, because four years is a different gap. So you're such an old man, it is Wow. Yeah, that's interesting to think.

Alisha Coakley:

I such an old man it is, Wow. Yeah, that's interesting to think. I mean, it doesn't feel like old when you're, you know, an adult Well when you're older, but it's old when you're young.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, like I wouldn't have been able to write to his mission. I was not old enough when he got back.

Alisha Coakley:

Wow, that's funny.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, it's funny.

Alisha Coakley:

So well, good luck with all that.

Meghan Blanc:

That's awesome, yeah, so so, yeah, I homeschool and my I don't have a job job, but I think I have a lot going on anyway yeah, I think you're busy enough.

Alisha Coakley:

You're good, yeah, well, man, well, you do have a job today, and that is, yes, to share your story with us. So we're going to turn the time over to you and you know, just have you tell us where your story begins.

Meghan Blanc:

Okay. Um, here it goes. I said this is kind of an odd experience for me so I'll do best I can, okay. So, um, I guess the beginning of my story kind of begins when I got my patriarchal blessing. Like I said, I grew up in the church so, you know, did the normal things. I um, when I received my patriarchal blessing, it was a great experience and obviously it was a great comfort for me for concerns at the time, towards the end of my blessing.

Meghan Blanc:

There is a line that I, like your blessing you learn and develop as time goes on. But there was a line that I didn't really catch as much at the time. It just didn't stand out, but it kind of came more to the front recently and so I've been paying more attention and reviewing it more faithfully. Um, even I usually reviewed a couple or a couple months or so and the line that it read was beware, because the adversary would seek to possess you. And then it had the little in-between part if you remain faithful, will remain prayerful, will study your scriptures, you'll have the power to overcome all attempts to lead you away.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, which a weird way to put it. Like I was like so at the time and most of my life. I thought, oh, that's like a warning, like everybody gets. You know, I'm sure that everybody has warnings. Their blessings mine was like I'm assuming standard. I mean, I haven't read everybody's blessing, but it sounded kind of like something you would say to anybody. You know, you need to follow the gospel and be a good, you know, be a good member and stay faithful. So I kind of assumed it was like okay, keep your covenants, don't fall off the path. You know, be a Nephi, don't be a Laman Lemuel that kind of thing,

Meghan Blanc:

I'm like okay, yeah, I can be a good girl, I'm fine, you know. Now, to preface my story, I do. I don't know if I had to mention this or not, but I don't have a history of clinical depression or anxiety of any kind, like I don't have any mental health history, right. But when I was in college I had a bad breakup and for some reason I couldn't shake it. Now I was working the night job that semester before I met my husband, so I was working night job alone right after I had the bad breakup and for some reason that breakup just spiraled me into like a depression and I couldn't shake it. And I did. I couldn't figure out why.

Meghan Blanc:

Part of me was like, well, I'm not sleeping well, so you feel out of sorts. I mean, I don't. I don't really remember most of that semester. I had grades, I obviously showed up and I obviously took the test and I did fine on them. But I ate, I slept, I did homework, I went to church and I worked and that was basically my life that semester. And I was working nights. I wasn't in much sleep. I had a very fun roommate who liked to blast country music during my usual sleeping time.

Alisha Coakley:

No.

Meghan Blanc:

And she shared a wall with me. I was like girl, please don't. I was much easier back then, so I didn't usually talk to people, but that was kind of you know, kind of weird experience. So, um, after a couple months, um, eventually I asked my parents for help. I was just like I can't, I'm not doing this on my own for some reason. I was praying and doing everything you're supposed to, but I just couldn't shake whatever this was. So I asked my parents and my I should preference. My parents are kind of my dad, especially as more new agey.

Meghan Blanc:

So, they're very open to all different kinds of things. So when I asked all of my parents, my father sent me to a hypnotherapist versus like a classic thing. So I went down to las vegas to visit them for the holiday weekend and he sent me to this catholic hypnotherapist it was a very interesting session, as you can imagine.

Meghan Blanc:

um, but during the session he um I would do like supposedly his past life regression. I kind of felt like it was like a movie playing and I was able to kind of sort things out. But during the session he had me, he had me ask for my guardian angel to deliver me and then after, during that session, the depression lifted and it was gone. I never came back and I've had hard times but I've never had like that level where it was just there and then gone.

Alisha Coakley:

Right.

Meghan Blanc:

So it was kind of interesting experience. Um, I'm not sure how to preface this. Um. So my parents left the church a couple of years ago and then, um, I kind of had to do like internal battle for a while.

Meghan Blanc:

Um, I got a lot of promptings that I needed to distance myself from them and I kind of kept ignoring it cause I didn't think that was, it didn't seem like it was in line with what you're supposed to do.

Meghan Blanc:

But after a while I counseled my husband and we just felt like this is what you're supposed to do, and so I did. It was not an easy decision, it was hard, but I went ahead and followed the prompting and I'm like, okay, that's, you know, kind of put to bed, and I did that and it wasn't well received by close family members but, um, it was kind of the right thing for the time. Um, now, during that time, uh, well, last May we were getting ready to do, uh, adoption. So during that time, um, my husband, I'd taken a break from having more children. At that point we felt kind of like a good good spot with four in a break from having more children. At that point we felt kind of like a good good spot with four Um, and so my husband and I felt prompted to start growing our family again Um. But we got a twist and we felt like we should do it both biologically and also through foster adoption system. So this is my seventh pregnancy.

Alisha Coakley:

Oh my gosh.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, I have four, but we have two in heaven. So I'd wanted to adopt a long time ago when we had our first miscarriage, but it wasn't the right timing and so I was like, okay, it's time for us to go. I'm like, oh, and my husband's like we were not quite ready for that initially but we decided to go forward. So we started the process. Actually, my 33rd birthday in May Like we ended up just timing wise was doing our interview and she's like, okay, good, so we started the process for fostering.

Meghan Blanc:

We didn't know at the time I was, I wasn't pregnant yet, so that was kind of that point. About the same time, my parents had reached out a few months before then asked us to have a visit at my grandfather's house, which was he's on in holiday, so he's pretty close by us over in Ogden, and I wasn't super happy about the idea, just like I'd put it to rest and I felt like I didn't have any promptings to move forward or to change. Like I didn't have any promptings to move forward or to change, so I was a little hesitant to I'm not sure what the word is to kind of move forward when I didn't feel like the timing was right, but I feel like I should at least honor their quest to go visit my grandpa's house. It was important to him. He's he's 89. He's older, the last living grandparent. I feel like I should honor his request and my parents.

Alisha Coakley:

Right.

Meghan Blanc:

So that's my grandpa's house. We picked there because we neutral ground. Okay, well, that's my grandpa, which is good to do anyway. You never know when it's. You know your last time, yeah. And then also it's more of a neutral territory, so it's not like it's in their space or my space. It's a little more relaxed, hopefully, or at least has a buffer if anything goes off. So I did agree.

Meghan Blanc:

I was not happy about it. I was. I'm I'm not terribly stubborn, but every once in a while if I don't feel good about something, I don't like it. Um, so I went there and the visit just fell off. The entire time I was practically gripping the chair. I wasn't quite gripping the chair, but my husband was looking at me like you okay, are you? Are you okay? Are you? Are you still okay? No, I'm not okay. I don't want to be here. I don't want to be here at all. I am not happy right now. I want to go home. I want to go home, I want.

Meghan Blanc:

I was like a little kid having a tempered tantrum internally. Um, it just, the visit just fell off. Um, like, my parents behaved fine. They were, you know, just talking like you would normally, like time hadn't passed and you know, talking about grandpa talking to me, talking to my husband, talking to kids, you know a little awkward because it's been a couple of years and my kids my youngest is three years old, so she doesn't really have a collection of them and stuff but right.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, they just felt wrong and all I really wanted to do was leave. I was just saying I want to go home, I want to go home, I want to go home, I want to go. So finally we were able to end the visit and we've kind of called them a couple of times since then and stuff, but it's been interesting. So shortly after that visit was when things got kind of interesting and the story kind of picks up again. I guess, so a couple of weeks after starting the adoption preparation process and about a week so after meeting with my parents, I had an interesting experience. So my husband was upstairs with our couple, our kids, getting them into bed and kind of I just just laying there.

Meghan Blanc:

I felt kind of I'm not sure the word sick, but it wasn't like a normal kind of sick. I just felt very weak and I'm like, well, if I feel weak I should lay down. And you know, I don't know if I'm having the flu or what's kind of happening, but I just felt off and weak. I didn't feel good. Well, I couldn't call out to him at first. I'm just like like my throat wouldn't work, my mouth would work. I don't know if you can tell, but I tend to be kind of chatty.

Meghan Blanc:

Not being able to talk is not a problem. I sleep, talk. I don't be quiet, I always talk. So not being able to talk is pretty weird, and so I tried to calm down and finally I kind of like Chris, chris. So I got out to him like hey, he kind of came over after he was downstairs. When he came downstairs he could hear me and the only thing I can compare this to was having a similar encounter to what Joseph Smith had in the grove. I was unable to completely move and I was having bits where, like I was trying to go after her as I could feel something was off. And it was interesting because I didn't. It was almost like I could, uh, sense what her movements were going to be before she tried something. So I wasn't in control, but I wasn't completely unaware either. It was almost like not words, more like visuals, kind of I could just anticipate oh, she's gonna try this or she's gonna try that so meaning like like the evil spirit, or devil or evil spirit, I'm not sure what the right

Alisha Coakley:

that was taking over.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, yeah yeah, it was funky, um. So I was, um, listen to a lot of exorcist files recently. We're trying to figure out kind of what's going on. Our church doesn't talk about this a lot so I didn't really know what the words were or what happened very well until I started kind of looking into the Catholics kind of have a hold on exorcisms. So I was like I don't know who to talk to and we don't have anything in the handbook. As far as I can find, then it's probably good to go to the exorcist. So I just kind of I've learned some of the terminology through looking through their information. So I guess the term would be oppressed, not possessed. As far as I understand it, oppression is different than possession. Possession it sounds like you black out and you lose complete control, so they just take over entirely and they do what they want.

Alisha Coakley:

Okay.

Meghan Blanc:

Um, at least that's my understanding. I'm not, I'm kind of new at this, so, um, not an experience. I planned for Um, not sure how you plan for it Um, so I was oppressed. I would know what she was going to do, but I didn't have control to stop her all the time. So I would get in and out as all as I can describe it where I would get in control and she would get in control, and then I would get in control and then she would get in control. But I was able to maintain some control and, um, I didn't have a lot of the. I don't know if you have symptoms or gifts that you have when you're fully possessed as well. Um, I didn't have a lot of the. I don't feel symptoms or gifts that you have when you're fully possessed as well.

Meghan Blanc:

um, I didn't have any superhuman strength I wasn't able to maneuver things in any weird ways, like I didn't wasn't able to affect like electricity or heat or anything of that nature. So, and again I was able to know what she was doing the whole time. So I was kind of sometimes in the back seat, sometimes in the front seat kind of thing, almost as if you were driving the car and then suddenly you're in the passenger seat and then you're in the front driver's seat again, back and forth.

Alisha Coakley:

Weird.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, I never heard anyone explain it that way, but that's the best I can come up with, I guess. So, since I was only in partial control of my body and I would switch in and out, I was very blessed to have my husband there, Because not only is he a worthy priesthood holder and has kept his temple covenants and was worthy to cast the entity out no-transcript weird. Why would anyone come and just start talking to a fellow missionary about, you know, a possession? Now, the reason it's not important to give up is when you have, you're casting out the temple, we kind of talk about it, but there's not really like a, there's not a formula like there is for getting a baby blessing or things like that. But the important thing is to just keep Satan to leave and leave and leave again, because a demon doesn't leave right away when it's commanded to do. So. You're not going to say, get out, we're not Christ. So we don't have that. Uh, we don't have the faith and the thing, as far as I understand, it's not usually that simple. Now, I know, I know for Catholic exorcist it can take hours or multiple attempts. In this case I was lucky. Um, it took a few attempts, but my husband was at it for a couple hours, about an hour, um. So yeah, so it's about an hour of him just saying no. Now he knew, just keep going and just keep going, ignore him. I don't care what she says, we're going to keep ignoring her and just keep going forward.

Meghan Blanc:

And they try to intimidate the person who's going to casting out because they know that it's not good. Um, there's a lot that needs to happen with the person having faith that has a possession or an oppression. A lot of it has to do with your faith and how you feel about it. I was not happy, so I tend to go kind of mama bear with my kids and with my husband. So you need the repetition, but you also need to have the faith as the person being delivered that this is. You're willing to repent, you're willing to not have the spirit be there. You don't want to keep it there.

Meghan Blanc:

So when you are commanding a demon out toward my hundred or a devil or an entity of any kind, the persistence is important, but you also their petition is important. What they're trying to do is basically wear you down and make you think it's not going to work. So either it'll crush your faith or it'll augment it, cause you're like no, I am a disciple of jesus christ. He had in my husband's case. He has the authority to do so, although from my understanding you don't priesthood. But as long as you have faith in christ, you are working through christ, he will cast anything out. He has power over it. So what is?

Alisha Coakley:

I mean for like a whole hour. What did? What was going on? What like yelling at him or like what was happening?

Meghan Blanc:

Well, it was pretty interesting. So, um, we ended up contacting my friends. I was able to get like call, uh, you know, call Janelle, see what she like. She has some experience with this area and so she kind of knew what more of a protocol is. So she has some experience. So she was kind of talking him through it on a best approach.

Meghan Blanc:

It Now I was what was happening, like I said, but it was back and forth, so I can only control her in spurts. But apparently my body's mannerisms change and my facial expressions would change and my tone of voice would change. I was a different person. So she was, I would say, flirty, if it was a good understanding of it, and she would just kind of move her shoulders around and she would kind of like mock him and kind of twist her. I mean, I can't, I don't think I could mimic it because I wasn't. I was watching from behind if that makes sense the camera. I wasn't seeing the person being affected. They'll say my husband was, but she would contort her face and it was very mocking, it was very nasty. She didn't swear, which is nice. Um, I don't like swearing. So, um, but yeah, she would use my voice, but it sounded different than my own reflections. So my husband could tell when we would switch. He knew what it was me.

Meghan Blanc:

So I would lay on my arms, neck close to my garments, and I pushed my arms close to my chest. I lay on my arms to try to protect him and occasionally I would yell at her. I would say you stop it, you leave him alone. You do not have the. You know like she's, this is my body. You don't get to do that. But I usually could just stop.

Meghan Blanc:

I wasn't able to say much out loud. I would usually be able to say you leave him alone, and then she'd take over. She laughed at him and she would just laugh and laugh and laugh. She mocked him. She said you don't, you don't know what you're doing, you can't get rid of me. Just making fun of him for even attempting it. So she was like you know, you can't get me out, like she was just nasty the entire time. It was kind of like bullying. I guess she kept trying to claw at him too. So she tried to like grab at him and then I would try to lay again my arms again.

Meghan Blanc:

But he kind of would see me coming and I you know, and look like I said, luckily I didn't have the superhuman strength, because if it's a true full possession, the demon can throw full grown men across the room and stuff. I mean it can be really ugly. So if there's ever a full possession, you would need a team of people from my understanding, like 10, 20 people in a room praying, holding people down. You know four big guys holding the person down. Even if you're as tiny as I am, I'm little, I'm not a very large person, so I didn't have that strength. So luckily he was able to kind of like he can take me. Okay, he's a decent sized guy, he's a normal average guy, but yeah he could just kind of hold my hands.

Meghan Blanc:

So she tried to call it and he would just like stop her. But yeah, after he got, after that hour or so, finally she left, yeah, but he said he had to keep defending himself, put his you know, uh, cast her out and then watch me try to yell at her and we just kind of have these back and forth, back and forth, um, until finally she left, um, so that was different and did your husband want to sleep in the same bed with you?

Meghan Blanc:

after that, I'd be like I'm gonna lock you in this room he was very nervous because neither one of us had really seen this. It came out of the blue. I wasn't like I wasn't messing with the ouija boards, I wasn't. You know, it was right after family scripture study too. That's true. I'd forgotten that we said play my scripture study, put the kids to bed, and then I start feeling sick after family scripture study. So it's not like we weren't, like we're pretty faithful, we're trying.

Alisha Coakley:

We're not perfect, but you know we're, we weren't like playing with weird stuff off to the side, or no, exactly I, exactly I wasn't doing crazy.

Meghan Blanc:

That's the thing. It's hard is I wasn't doing anything odd. There was another attack a few weeks later, but I kind of could sense what was coming on, if that makes any sense. More again, like I. Now that I had that experience, I was like okay, but it was weaker and so I was just like I don't feel good. Good, oh man, I don't know what she's gonna do this time, or if it's someone different, like I don't know, he cast one out. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the same uh entity coming back, right. So I put on uh hymns. That time I was like I'm gonna put on some hymns and just let it play like a playlist. Um, because there's a hymns app and I'm gonna play the hymns app and do the best I can to try to bring the spirit in as much as I can and see, I mean see if it helps. I don't know what you do with you know, I mean we were doing scripture today. I thought that was kind of a good vibe as I call it.

Meghan Blanc:

So I played hymns. It helped. I was kind of putting like a stupor so I just like was like really lethargic and I just couldn't raise my body. So I was just laying there like kind of slumped against my bed waiting to like feel better. So I just laid there, my husband didn't have to cast thing out, I was just waiting until I felt better and then after probably about another hour, again same thing. I just felt better and I was fine. Like it just left. I was, I think I put my hour to square in that case, like I was, I don't just said you leave, and then it did like when I got a minute of strength, but it was much easier that time, and then I haven't had one since, but it's only been a few months and I don't know from the context, my blessing, like I don't know if seek to possess you, it does say attempts. So I don't know if that means two. I don't know if that means a lifetime of problems.

Meghan Blanc:

I don't know what that indicates right so yeah, I mean, I've been trying to kind of figure out what the causes would be, but I don't know.

Alisha Coakley:

Well, you know, I have a little thought on this. I think I might've shared this with you when we were on our preliminary call, but, like my, uh, my dad had a kind of somewhat a little bit of a similar experience, um, when way back in the seventies, in the 1970s, uh, when he and my mom were first investigating the church and stuff like that, um, he had come home and or he was like home and he had walked in the living room and I guess there was like a little side table with, like the old school you know, phones and stuff there and uh, he'd come in and all of a sudden he felt this immense like darkness and weight that came over on, came on him and basically forced him to his knees, like he physically and he was a big guy, he was like his nickname was tree, he's like six foot four, german, beefy, muscular, soldier, guy Right, and he, he was like he couldn't even stand. He was like he fell to his knees and he's by himself at the time and stuff like that and it took him forever. Like he just he was like crying and he just there was this darkness on him and the only thing that he could do is reach out and grab that phone and he was able to dial the missionaries numbers who were teaching him the discussions and all that stuff at the time, but he couldn't physically speak, like. He kept trying to speak and he couldn't and this is before caller ID and all of that kind of stuff. Even without him saying anything, the missionaries knew it was him and so they said, you know, they said, brother, shoe hard, is that you? And there's a silence, you know, and he kept trying to choke something out and they're like we're coming right now. And so it was.

Alisha Coakley:

You know, 15, 20 minutes later the missionary showed up and when they came in they were able to, um, you know, to do a blessing and all that kind of stuff and get rid of it. But they had told my dad afterwards that, um, sometimes that you'll kind of put a target on your back when you're doing exactly what the Lord needs you to do, when you're on that path, because you're, you're getting ready to either open up more of your spiritual gifts or you're, you know, you're getting ready to do something that's like a big part of your mission in life. You know, like, like with Joseph Smith right, like if he hadn't gone into the Grove and didn't want to go pray about it, there wouldn't have been an incessant need at that moment to have Satan attack him, you know. And so it could be that maybe you're on the verge of doing something you know what I mean Like with you adopting these kids or something like that.

Alisha Coakley:

Like maybe there's something that Satan's trying to stop you from progressing towards or gaining more knowledge on, or having more power in, and it could be for your husband too, you know, like maybe they want to scare him. So sometimes that's something that these missionaries have told my dad all those years ago and I mean, I've seen it a couple of times with different family members where, as soon as they start doing things that they should be doing and changing their life, all of a sudden they have a target on the back and Satan's like uh, I'm going to try to scare you away from it, I'm going to try to talk you out of it, I'm going to try to, you know, tempt you into something else, and so it could just be something as simple as that. I mean, I'm not an apostle, I don't quote me, but that's just my feeling of it. I don't know, scott, you're a Bishop.

Scott Brandley:

What is?

Alisha Coakley:

your thing.

Scott Brandley:

I didn't deal with anything like that, but I know that when my I have a brother, I have a brother. When he was a teenager, he was possessed by something and my dad had to spend the whole night with him, and it was.

Alisha Coakley:

What.

Scott Brandley:

Yeah, it was yeah, the whole night with him and it was what? Yeah, it was yeah, the whole night. Just it was kind of this kind of similar like, um, he would, it just wouldn't leave and he would just keep, you know, commanding it to leave and and doing the thing, and he had to stay with them the whole night until it left.

Meghan Blanc:

Was it right before your brother was having permission, kind of thing no, he was.

Scott Brandley:

He wasn't doing stuff he should be doing and they he was in a bad place and I think it just kind of opened him up to be susceptible to some bad things. Wow yeah, it was almost like my dad was like fighting for him, like battling against this evil spirit all night to try to save him.

Alisha Coakley:

Wow so and you know, I mean I'm we don't hear a lot about this kind of stuff now, like I think the most recent account usually is the one with joseph smith in the grove right, um, but you read in the scriptures and it is all over in the scriptures. I mean, there are so many different times where we read stories about people being possessed and you know the, the spirits going into the, into the pigs and the kids, the pigs going crazy, and you know what I mean. Like there it's a real thing, like it really happened, and I don't think that we're in a position where that just went away. I think, if anything, it's become way more commonplace and we call it different things now, right, like we, we put a medical term on it or we put a you know a identity to it or something like that. Um, where it's, it's kind of explained away, so to speak. Um, maybe even something as simple as like, oh, I have depression. You know, I that's one thing that I've always like.

Alisha Coakley:

I do know that there is like an actual medical, like there's things that happen in your brain, but also I think that a lot of people sometimes might confuse that and maybe they do have that oppression that you're talking about, right, maybe it's not possession, but maybe it really is just sharing space with an evil spirit. And because you don't recognize it, you just are susceptible to the belief of oh, this is just something I I can't get rid of, I just don't have the power. It's just, it's just medical, it's just this. And, again, I do know that there is medical depression. Like, I do know that there are actual mental health things that are in the brain that you know are better on medication or better through therapies.

Alisha Coakley:

I, uh, we had someone who's actually a hypnotherapist, um, and a member of the church, and we just had her on the show a little bit ago, um, and I did hypnotherapy with her too, and it's something that the church says you know, that is, that's okay. Like in the handbook, you can go to a hypnotherapist for medical you know medical things and whatever else. So, um, it's not for entertainment purposes. Is is what the handbook suggests, right? So I do think that there's definitely like stuff out there that we just don't even consider possession or whatever else, because we're we're trying to be logical all the time and just explain it away, but it's real, you know what I mean. Like it didn't disappear, especially nowadays with everything that we have going on.

Meghan Blanc:

So yeah, well, I know most of my information has come, unfortunately, from the Catholic side, so it's not doctrinal or anything, but I think it lines up with what we understand too. The things they talk about that seem to open people up to it are things that tend to make life harder anyway. One of the biggest ones is like addictions. Addictions, they know, affects the body and affects the spirit, so Satan has an invitation to come in. When you have an addiction, well, that makes sense. You can be addicted, and Satan's gonna make it harder. If you are, if you've committed grievous sin like murder, or if you're committing violence to family members, that's not okay. Um, things like sexual sins, pornography those are things that attack the body and the spirit at the same time. Participating in occult practices like visiting psychics, um, even things like abuse seem to have that kind of effect too, where, because it harms the soul so much, it leaves like a chasm or an opening or a hole.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, trauma.

Meghan Blanc:

Trauma, yeah, Trauma abuse, even mental illness, Like there are. You can have them coexist, but why wouldn't Satan harm a person who's already hurting?

Alisha Coakley:

Oh, absolutely.

Meghan Blanc:

And so I don't know how much like I do wonder how often we could help others kind of maybe do it in a more like the catholics have it where they have um before they do. They call it deliverance ministry or um for the for the exorcism. There's a whole process that I had, no, it existed until I was looking more into it, and they have them meet with a therapist to rule out mental illness. Apparently a lot like nine times out of ten or something it is actual mental illness, which I was surprised right they like.

Meghan Blanc:

This actually lines up with an actual diagnosis. This makes sense right but that time it will not quite match, it won't quite be right. It'll be something like well, yeah, but this kind of thing doesn't happen to people. Or you know like, so a lot of people say they come forward. I was like I'm not crazy, but you know this happened.

Meghan Blanc:

And so the priest is like I know you're not crazy, I believe in christ too yeah um, but I know that that's something that can affect us, so that one thing I've been kind of learning is sin, um, the things that they always tell us against the church also leave us opening for satan. I don't think we kind of think of trials as being possessed as one of the things that's available, but it is available as an option. We don't really know if it's being righteous or what the problems are that seem to cause it. There's not like a if you do this, you'll for sure be possessed.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, yeah.

Meghan Blanc:

There doesn't seem to be like an exact formula, which is interesting, it's just if he has a chance he'll come in or send in one of his or multiple, depending on the person. Um, I know that that happened a lot in the scriptures as well. They would be legion or they'd be other different names where they would be multiple forces right so I don't know what causes it either. I know I'm lucky I got one, but um.

Alisha Coakley:

I know I'm lucky I got one, but, um, wow, so, okay. So, and I know maybe you don't know this, but, um, in regards to all of that, what have you? I mean, what are you guys doing now to try to put more things into place to prevent that from happening? And like in your home, and you know what is your husband doing to be better prepared in case he has to. You know what is your husband doing to be better prepared in case he has to. You know help you again in the future, or help kids, or you know someone else that he runs into. Like what? What kind of changes are you guys looking into making or have you made an ear?

Meghan Blanc:

Um, we've kind of done inventory to see. Um, I know that like one thing to look for is again see anything that's a cult like. Sometimes things will seem like they're okay and not. In the catholic church there's a side sect I can't remember what it's called but there's a side sect of catholicism where they actually, um, they're like little saints, but they're not, and so they're actually worshiping demons. So I'm like, okay, is there anything in my? I don't, was there anything in my house that would be inviting something else? And like, is everything I'm doing? I haven't found anything that's stands out that would be off-putting. Um, uh, we've, we have a temple picture in our home. We have pictures of christ in the home. Uh, we do a scripture study. We go to the temple regularly.

Meghan Blanc:

Like it's kind of that's the thing was kind of hard is we didn't really see like an opening. We're like, well, I, I don't have any of these things. I haven't done degree of sins, as far as I know, so far at least, not god, would they continue on the path forward? Um, I haven't hung out with people. Um, that's one thing that can happen, apparently is, if you hang out with people that have a bad spirit, you, you can actually kind of catch it sort of which is to think about, um, we don't have parties, we don't have people over much, so, like it's it has encounters a lot of people with his notary business, but it doesn't seem like that would be accurate. You know, um, we haven't encountered anybody that has it.

Meghan Blanc:

Um, I wondered if, when my parents leaving the church, if there's anything they've had contact with, but I mean, I don't know and I can't judge them for where they're at with their, you know, relationship with Christ. I don't know if it is simply just. You know, looking into adoption is actually a several year thing. When my first miscarriage happened, I wanted to adopt, like pretty quickly afterwards and I was like you're grieving, you're upset, we'll probably have more kids, you're gonna be fine. Let's calm down, like while you're in this experience, let's take time to process the grief that you're experiencing and I'm experiencing, before we like jump in the next thing.

Meghan Blanc:

You know um so I mean, we waited, you know nine years before and had another miscarriage before it felt like time. So I don't know if it's something as simple as going to help people who yeah, who've um, when you take on teenagers who've been through the foster care system, they have that trauma and they have been through so much been abandoned, unwanted. I can't imagine how out must feel to be rejected multiple times, over and over and over again. And no one wants teenagers. Teenagers are horrible. Everybody hates teenagers.

Alisha Coakley:

I'm like not that bad. They're all possessed now. I'm just kidding.

Meghan Blanc:

I better stop. We can always edit out later. Were you hanging out?

Scott Brandley:

with any teenagers. I wasn't hanging out with any teenagers. I just had my little preteen I wonder if it's like you know how we talk about the gifts of the spirit and people have different gifts of the spirit. I wonder if it's um similar in the sense that we we each have weaknesses or things that we're vulnerable more vulnerable to than than others, and maybe that's just something that certain people are more vulnerable to spiritually is to be possessed by a spirit.

Alisha Coakley:

That you know, scott. On that note, the gift of discernment. I'm going to see if I can find it real quick. I'm going to google it. There is a in the, the dictionary, I believe the. Let me see I'm going to put this in real quick yes, in the gospel library, discernment.

Alisha Coakley:

Let's spell this right word, right? Um, I want to read this. Nope, that's not the right one. Hold on, I'm gonna find it anyway. It does talk about spirits. It talks about the gift of discernment, being able to discern spirits. Um, so this could just be, if that happens to be one of your gifts. It might be. I'm going to look it up for release, but yeah, I don't know.

Meghan Blanc:

I thought I also wondered, since our blessings are eternal blessings, I've also wondered if this is a preparatory gift. Maybe I get attacked throughout my life. I don't know. Like I said, I'm like, well, that happens, that happens. It seems like, you know, anyone could cast spirits out so my husband would be able to handle it. Okay, if that's the case, I've wondered if maybe that's something to my mission and the next life as well. We don't know what everybody does, but I've wondered um, would it be possible that I would help people on um from the other side as well? If I've been able to overcome bad spirits with my body, I would think I'd be able to sense and help people who have a similar experience from the other side as well.

Meghan Blanc:

That's a possibility I thought of yeah that is not gospel doctrine in any way, shape or form, but it's a thought that I had like.

Alisha Coakley:

Maybe this is yeah it's one of those things. I mean, we know that we can use our bad for good, right, we know that we can use our experiences, just like um. I know one of the things that I've noticed is because of the um sexual abuse that I had when I was a child, I can literally walk in a room and nine times out of 10, I can tell you who was who else was sexually abused, without having a conversation. I just get this sense and I've been proven right a lot lately and it kind of put me in a position sometimes, like when I was working with young women. Um, those young women were able to easily come to me and I think because they recognized it too, so they knew that they could come talk to me about the things that they were going through, and then I was sort of like an adult that could help them navigate that situation, you know.

Alisha Coakley:

So I I definitely think that there's a um, there's a power in our struggles, right Like it's where we learn. But also then we kind of become a little bit of a reflection for other people who are having those struggles and when they look at us they can see, okay, this person was able to to grow above that. So I know I can trust them because they've been through it. You know, I don't know. Just a thought it's very interesting, very interesting. I can't find the thing that I read, but I'm going to have to keep looking. So, anyway, I know that the gift of discernment does have the ability to discern spirits, so maybe that's something you know in the extreme. I don't know.

Meghan Blanc:

I don't know. I don't know either. We don't have a lot of information as to, like I said, what causes it. We know that the Savior did tell certain people that it was not because of sin for certain people that were in the scriptures. They said well, whose sin was it? There's a boy, I believe, that's throwing himself into the fire at the time. And they asked him whose sin Was it? His parents? Was it him?

Alisha Coakley:

Like what's the problem? He said, sometimes these things just happen and basically, and it's for the betterment of god's people. And so I don't know. Yeah, and to be fair, I mean we know that we're just getting closer and closer to the second coming of christ, which means the veil is getting thinner, which means the war is raging, you know, raging on in bigger, harder, more extreme ways, and so it could literally just be that both sides are getting stronger, you know, and they're just getting louder.

Meghan Blanc:

I don't know so no, I've heard that as well too. Like well, we know, the spirits didn't leave that he, satan and his followers are stuck here on the earth we didn't go anywhere. So if they're here, I would stand reason that they're doing something with their free time. I don't know. You know nothing but free time. Um, I don't even know. I don't even know what their responsibilities are, if anything. I mean, I like cs lewis a lot and so if you read, like the screw tape letters, you know he has like where they have, you know, jobs and like I don't't know how Satan's system works.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, I would assume being one of God's sons, he probably paid attention to how God organized things or is going to, and I would assume that everything of Satan's is a mirror of God. And if that's the case and we know there's opposition, all things then if there's spirits that are attacking us, then there's spirits that are attacking us, then there's spirits that are protecting us, and if there's that would indicate it's a pretty good fight.

Meghan Blanc:

Um, that's one of the things I've kind of taken away so far. Again, it's only been a few months. Um is, if satan hates me that much, I'm not. I'm not joseph smith, okay, I'm somebody. As far as I know, my journey on earth is probably not going to be the most exciting in terms of like people. But non-history books or you know, I probably won't be someone well-remembered by everybody, although being on a podcast I remembered more than most.

Meghan Blanc:

But if he hates me that much for going about my business, doing something that's kind of average I mean, I'm a stay at home mom, I homeschool. I'm under the radar as far as most people's perception is. If he hates me that much just going about my business, what on earth does he hate about everybody else? And that means if Satan hates me that much, god must love me an awful lot too. You know, um, it's an oppositional limit. God loves me an awful lot If he put that much effort into protecting me as well. Like I didn't get fully attacked. I wasn't harming my husband. My husband was perfectly fine. He was creeped out, but he wasn't hurt. Um, I probably scared my children a little bit, unfortunately my husband.

Meghan Blanc:

My husband was perfectly fine he was creeped out, but he wasn't hurt. Um, I probably scared my children a little bit. Unfortunately they were in hearing range and she was pretty nasty. But you know we didn't, I know I, you know I didn't do anything that was particularly interesting. But if I'm that important, so is everybody else, and so I doesn't. You know, it doesn't really bother me to worry about it too much. I figure this is if satan can attack us. That's so I doesn't. You know it doesn't bother me to worry about it too much. I figured this is if Satan can attack us. That's one of the things. If you know, some of us have physical strength problems, fertility problems, I mean. There's any number of things you can name off.

Meghan Blanc:

This is just not one that was on my radar, honestly, is that anything like oh, I thought I would just be an average person that has you know the other things that everybody else seems to face at church. Yeah, this is not one that was on my radar, but it doesn't mean it's any less. I don't say average, but it's any less of a trial than the same way as everything else is, which means it can be overcome. We know that one of the promises that God made to Adam and Eve was that the serpent could bruise the heel, but Christ could crush his head.

Alisha Coakley:

Right, so it's it makes me want to like.

Scott Brandley:

Oh, go ahead, Scott I was going to say I think it's really interesting that it mentioned it in your patriarchal blessing that to me shows that there's it in your patriarchal blessing. That, to me, shows that there's a lot of power and insight in in a patriarchal blessing.

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, yeah. Like I said, I look back at mine. Like I asked my husband, like, do you want to look at yours? What's? What do you got in yours? What's going on there? Like, what are your challenges that we're not?

Alisha Coakley:

you know? Yeah, I was just gonna say it makes me want to go put my patriarchal blessing and chat gpt and be like, hey, hey, ai pull out all the warnings in this blessing and then let me know what each of them could possibly mean on a spiritual, spiritual sense, just so I can be better prepared, just in case there's something that's spoken out.

Meghan Blanc:

I mean, the spirit's good to use too, but but chat GBT is very convenient sometimes, so maybe it'll but that's the thing is, I didn't see it coming, like I said, I just thought it was like oh, your life's just going to be kind of hard sometimes, like oh yeah, everybody has a hard life. You know, we weren't, you know, planned to have roses without thorns, right?

Alisha Coakley:

Right.

Meghan Blanc:

Wow.

Alisha Coakley:

So, man, well, I'm I'm sorry that you don't have more answers at the moment. You know that this is so fresh for you and stuff like that, but we really do appreciate you coming on here and sharing your story with us today. And, um, we I'm, I'm curious, do you, um, do you have like any, any final thoughts? You know, like, how has this helped with your testimony? What would you like to share with us before? Yeah?

Meghan Blanc:

Yeah, like I said, for me, I kind of figured out that like we actually have a little information like on how to overcome Satan, then we do, like what causes possession? Like that's not really mentioned, but we do know that it's overcoming Satan in other ways, even if we don't call it possession. As far as overcoming Satan's power, the information we have is like in Revelation 11, 12, or 12, 11, there we go, we read, and they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they love not their lives unto the death. And then in Alma 37, 6, we read and you may suppose this is foolishness in me, but behold, I say unto you that by small and simple things are great things brought to pass, and small means, in many instances, death, confound the wise. So in revelation it tells us that repentance or returning jesus christ, jesus, has the power to overcome satan. So repentance or returning jesus christ have a lot of power. So if you're ever having trouble, repent, bearing your testimony, and it was by the word of testimony they were able to overcome Satan and the war on heaven. Reading our script and my, my blessing, it said read your scriptures, remain prayerful. You know it wasn't sound like it's the most exciting thing in the world, but it's.

Meghan Blanc:

Attending the temple regularly, attending our church services. Those are all small things and everybody can do the small things to a certain extent. People always call them the primary answers, but one thing that's really stuck in my heart is that they're repetitive, but they're really important. We wouldn't keep saying them. They're actually pretty powerful tools in this adversary. If you ever look at anyone you've ever known who's left the church, are they repenting every day? Are they bearing their testimony all the time? Are they doing their scriptures every day? Are they praying all the time? Are they attending the temple? Are they attending the church all the time? Unfortunately, probably not, and that's something that's kind of uplifted me. I'm like, well, if you keep, you know, keep trucking or keep going at something.

Meghan Blanc:

I thing I didn't know that my trials would include fighting off demonic attempts to possess my body. I also didn't know that I wouldn't be fully possessed, because it does talk about attempted possessions. I honestly didn't really think I was worth Satan's efforts. I was like, well, I'm just a person. I'm not like you know. I don't think my calling is particularly interesting. I live a very ordinary life. I stay under the radar. I do side callings that are supportive roles. I try to do God's will. But um you know if I'm that unimportant and why?

Meghan Blanc:

why do you target me anyway? Because I'm a beloved daughter of heavenly parents, because I have a divine nature and eternal destiny, because my family is my most important priority and eternal families are central to heavenly Father's plan. And because I'm a disciple of Jesus Christ, and so I'm going to keep trying to do the small things. And if he comes again, which he probably will, then we just got to. You know, I'll keep bearing my testimony and I'll keep, you know, trying every day and the best I can and repent more and the best I can.

Scott Brandley:

I love that because it feels like by going through this experience, you've actually realized even more than ever who you really are and the power that you have and the love that God has for you and for each one of us.

Alisha Coakley:

You know? Yeah, I agree, I think it's. Maybe maybe you thought you were too average and too normal and too blah for too long, and maybe this is one of those things hemling mother's like okay, I'm just gonna let this happen because I know it's gonna teach her a lesson, you know, so you didn't make it happen, but he's like you'd sneak in there just so she knows how much I love her and how awesome she is you never know.

Alisha Coakley:

Well, good luck with everything in the future. I hope that you're able to one, not have to experience that again and, two, if you do that, you are better prepared, that you're in a position where you're able to you know, to get free from that and, um it, it. It's definitely interesting. I think a lot of us we just we get so busy with our day to days that we forget that there is a real force out there that is trying to stop us, trying to slow us down, trying to belittle us, um, and that Satan is just as real as Jesus Christ, you know that's. The good news, though, is that Jesus is so real and his power is so, so real, um, so, just staying close to him and just constantly trying to to live the way that he wants us to live. It really does give us this the shield of protection, not necessarily to stop everything all the time, but to help us to be able to still endure and to get through and and to be better, you know, despite the wounds and the, the attacks that we we have to face. So, and well, thank you, Meghan. I really appreciate coming on and sharing your story with us today. That was great. Yeah, thanks guys All right.

Alisha Coakley:

Well, that's a wrap. That's all we have for you guys today. So we just want to thank our listeners, too, for tuning in and ask you guys to remember to do your five second missionary work. It's the small and simple things that help spread light to the world. So do that five second missionary work. Hit that share button, comment, let us know. I mean, I love hearing about how these things were overcome, and so, if you have a story that you'd like to share too, like let us know, comment, tell us what resonated with you. All the things, um, we just we love hearing from our guests yeah, you know it's interesting.

Scott Brandley:

So through this story we we all three have had some type of an experience or know someone close to us that's had it.

Scott Brandley:

I wonder how many other people out there have experienced something like this. You know it's it's not talked about a lot, but because we only tell our stories to the people closest around us in the in the church, then you probably don't get to hear what's really out there on a larger scale. So that's one of the cool things about having this show is that we get to hear stories broader than just our ward, you know.

Alisha Coakley:

I love that.

Scott Brandley:

Yeah, so yeah, thanks, Meghan, for being on the show, and if any of you have a story that you'd like to share, or know someone that has a story that can help others or give some insight or some assistance or share some light, go to latterdaylightscom and share your story with us and anything else, Alisha.

Alisha Coakley:

I think that's it. We just appreciate you guys. We, scott and I, have been doing this show for, you know, a little over two and a half years now, and it's just going to get stronger and better and bigger and hopefully reach more and more hearts, and we just need stories. We need more stories. So we would, we would love to schedule a phone call with yours truly. Tell us all the things. That would be great, yeah awesome.

Scott Brandley:

well, thanks again, guys, and thanks Meghan, and we will talk to you guys next week with another episode from Latter-day Lights. Until then, take care, bye guys.

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