In this episode Jan Burger opens up about her lifelong love of sports and her difficult battle with multiple sclerosis. She also shares many experiences and blessings she's received from attending the temple, and how several members of her ward have lovingly served her by helping her attend so that she can serve those who have passed on.
She also shares a special spiritual experience that she had with her dad the night he passed away.
Jan's difficult health battles, her spiritual experiences, and her strong desire to serve in the temple is inspiring and will touch your heart.
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In this episode Jan Burger opens up about her lifelong love of sports and her difficult battle with multiple sclerosis. She also shares many experiences and blessings she's received from attending the temple, and how several members of her ward have lovingly served her by helping her attend so that she can serve those who have passed on.
She also shares a special spiritual experience that she had with her dad the night he passed away.
Jan's difficult health battles, her spiritual experiences, and her strong desire to serve in the temple is inspiring and will touch your heart.
*** Please SHARE Jan's story and help us spread hope and light to others. ***
To WATCH this episode on YouTube, visit: https://youtu.be/ATqWrxdJldM
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Also, if you have a faith-promoting or inspiring story, or know someone who does, please let us know by going to https://www.latterdaylights.com and reaching out to us.
Hi everyone, I'm Scott Brandley.
Alisha Coakley:And I'm Alisha Coakley. Every member of the church has a story to share, one that can instill faith, invite growth and inspire others.
Scott Brandley:On today's episode, we're going to hear how one woman's journey to attend the temple taught her about the importance of connecting with those on the other side of the veil. Welcome to Latter-day Lights. Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Latter-day Lights. We're so glad you're here with us today and we're really excited to introduce our guest, Jan Berger. Jan, how are you doing?
Jan Burger:I'm good.
Scott Brandley:Good.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah, we're so excited to have you, jan. I know you reached out to us a little while ago. I'm curious how did you come across Latter-day Lights?
Jan Burger:For me. I felt like it just happened that I started watching you guys and I was uplifted by the people that you had come on. It was very uplifting and I started watching and I felt like I needed to make a connection with you and I'm like that's ridiculous. I'm learning that I need to act upon the spirit when it guides you.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah so you've never done anything like this. You've never done a podcast or anything. No, in firesides.
Jan Burger:Do you like giving talks in church? No, no, this was a tough one that I was like go with the inspiration, there you go, and I've been really worried about it.
Scott Brandley:How did your husband think when you told him I'm going to be on a podcast?
Jan Burger:He thought I was ridiculous and he's probably very right, but my thought has been there are people who think things that maybe they ought to share.
Scott Brandley:Yep exactly.
Alisha Coakley:Yep, that's why we do this Nudge, nudge to all of our listeners out there who are starting to feel the whole team.
Jan Burger:They should think about it, even if they think, oh, I should share your thoughts, yeah.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah, I love that. That's awesome. Well, aside from not liking public speaking, why don't you tell us a little bit more about yourself, jan?
Jan Burger:Most people know me from sports. Okay, and most of the people that would see this that know me. It's because of sports. I love sports and I ran our steak sports and then we did regional sports and it was so nice getting to know the people in the programs.
Alisha Coakley:Aw, so I just love that connection Like every sport, or are there certain ones that you like more than others?
Jan Burger:Um, I like all sports but I played basketball in high school and then I start my. Okay, the coach was thinking we all needed to get matching this and matching that and I'm like sorry, that's not me Minds about playing ball. And so my sister ended up getting multiple sclerosis and we were tight on money so I was like I'm not playing, so I quit playing basketball and I thought I went one year without it and it drove me nuts. So I thought I need to learn how to play soccer because a girl said well, they have soccer tryouts this week. So I got the encyclopedia and read up of how to play soccer and I went and tried out that week and made the soccer team and I love it. Wow, I love this.
Alisha Coakley:That is awesome. I cannot relate. I tried out for softball when I was in like 10th grade and I got about 30 minutes into tryouts and I was like it's too hot, I'm sweaty, I don't like this and I went home. That was the extent of my sports, but that's super impressive. So now in your you're married, do you have kids, grandkids?
Jan Burger:I have a few kids. That's a whole nother story, yeah.
Alisha Coakley:Okay, and where are you? Where are you living right now? Right now, I'm in Honeyville, okay, so that is just north of Ogden, right, yes, isn't that over?
Scott Brandley:by Brigham City. It's by Brigham City.
Alisha Coakley:Crystal Hot Springs is kind of that's in Honeyville. Okay, been there. I know that Very, very cool. I always wondered if they said said Honeyville or Honeyville, like I know you toss. Okay, utah can be weird with names. I'm just saying they don't like to say hurricane, they say hurricane and that's not it.
Jan Burger:It is hurricane, but in Florida it's hurricane. There are things that are interesting here.
Alisha Coakley:Yep Exactly Awesome.
Scott Brandley:Well, Jen, we're excited to hear your story. You're going to tell us about some experiences you had in the temple Is that right.
Jan Burger:Well, and some things that happened. It's been interesting.
Alisha Coakley:Leading up to the temple too, right.
Jan Burger:Yeah, well, the first person that brought me into going to the temple, her herself, was very blessed that she was a ball player and she was playing college ball, that her parents had moved into our ward and so I kind of knew the family, and so we ended up when she was off from playing college ball. I go and play basketball every week. A bunch of women would get together and go play basketball every week, and so this one week I thought of Tristan, who just came home. I'm like we need to have Tristan come and play ball with us. So Tristan came and played basketball with us and it was so. They're amazing. Their family is amazing and Tristan is amazing and seriously, she's the one who got me into the temple first.
Jan Burger:I don't know if she realizes how important and how huge it was for what she did, because I was using a walker at that time and I went in to Sunday or into Relief Society and Tristan was like, let's go to the temple. And I'm like, are you serious? I'm there. And so Tristan is the reason I started going into the, and this was years ago. So Tristan started taking me every week to the temple and I was doing her family names at that time and it was such a blessing. It was so much peace in being there at the temple and it meant so much to me.
Jan Burger:So for a while Tristan and I went to the temple every week and then all of a sudden I met her her husband. She has now. They were dating at that time and he would come and visit me too, at the house, at my house, and I'm like he was such a nice guy and I'm like I love it, tristan, you're doing so good, very spiritual person. So then they got married and they moved and then I was in the stake young women's presidency and the lady who was the president had asked me to be her first counselor and we didn't know each other and after that it was like the connection I wasn't getting around well after that. But then her and I started going into the temple each week.
Alisha Coakley:Okay, Can I? Can I ask real quick? You mentioned you weren't able to get around much. I have multiple sclerosis. Okay, Gotcha, Wow, so that that inhibits your ability to walk? Yeah, and then you can walk easily and and just move in general. Right, and it's painful, Is that? Is that correct?
Jan Burger:Luckily it hasn't been Really Luckily it hasn't been that my vision. I'm losing vision and I don't like that. But there's a lot I'm learning from that. So this other lady takes me to the temple each week and I was doing her family names and then I started getting my family names. A lot of the baptism is done for those that I just felt like I needed to get those names. And then my brother set up because there's a family names and my brother set it up to where all of the siblings and the family could go on to the names within our ancestors to get work done. And I was like wow, there are so many names that need to be done. So I've been taking family names in. There was when her and I were going.
Jan Burger:Then I was starting to get weaker and I thought I'm not going to make it to the temple. But okay, first, before that happened, I went in early in the morning and went to the bathroom and I come out I'm not one who falls asleep real quick and I lay down and all of a sudden I went into a different realm and my dad was there talking to me and I was like wow. And as I sat there I was watching him and I was hearing him, but I never saw him open his mouth. I heard him the whole time and he was pretty much saying you let all of my family know I'm here and I'm watching over them and they need to listen and they need to stay close to the spirit. I was just like wow, and it was.
Jan Burger:And then I thought he died that night. My mom says no, he's not dead, he just sleeps all the time right now. And he said he's not just sleeping all the time. And then he was gone by the next morning and it was like wow, I had chills, I seriously, that night when it happened. I did not sleep the whole night. It was seriously. I sat there and thought I didn't say anything to him. I said nothing and all of a sudden I hear my dad again and he says did you see me talk to you? No, and I was like wow, but he heard what was in my head and those things that I was thinking when I was hearing him and he was talking to me. I said nothing, but the message I got was he heard you, he heard your message.
Alisha Coakley:That's interesting. We've had a couple of guests who have had similar experiences where they've talked about communication with someone else on the other side of the veil, either like during a coma that they were in or if they had a near death experience, and they said kind of the same thing. Like that you didn't have to actually say anything To know what the other person was thinking, and even to the point where it was like there was no question or no miscommunication. It was like complete, coherent.
Alisha Coakley:We were just talking to each other, but you don't have to speak Exactly what it was. Yeah, wow. So so what happened after that? After your dad passed?
Jan Burger:Well, I told my brothers on the way home or on the way to the next day when he died and my brothers picked me up from Utah to take me to Idaho and I was like I just had chills all over still and I was like, oh, dad came to me last night. He came and he talked to me and I told them and they were like so then when we get to my mom's house they were like, well, did he have his gray hair? Did he have any hair? And I was like he did. He did not have gray hair, he didn't. And then when we got to my mom's house and my mom showed me a picture of the way they, when my dad and mom, were married, I didn't know my dad had hair then but I was like, yeah, that's what he looked like. Wow, that was who came and he's here and he's here for all of us and we need to listen to him. So the random that happened was okay. Many random things happened. They weren't okay. I really shouldn't use the word random because my friend and I talk about that all the time and say we always hear people say the random things, but they're spiritual things, miracles happen.
Jan Burger:So I wasn't going to go to the temple with her that week because I wasn't getting around. Well, because I used the walker to get around to take you in the wheelchair. I'm kind of a stubborn person, I'm not asking those kind of things. And I hear again ask your friend to take you in the wheelchair. I was like, okay, don't push it off. So I call my friend and said okay, I was going to cancel on you for today's or for tomorrow's, but I keep feeling like I need to ask you about if we can take a wheelchair. And she goes oh, I do that for my mom all the time. And I was like, wow, okay, and since then we go in the wheelchair into the temple and it's like me needing to learn to listen and act upon those things. Don't push off just because it's difficult, don't push it off. If you feel it, act on it. So her and I go into the temple each week. And you know I'm kind of a stubborn person who likes everything just to go easy.
Jan Burger:And I had a group of names my dad, his mother is the McGinty and the McGinty line was what I had been working on and we had been going in getting the McGinty. So I've been getting the McGinty's done and I thought I got them all done and we go into the temple. And when I got done we go into the celestial room and I'm just crying and she's like, was that the last of your McGinty's? And I said, yes, and she goes, they must be happy. And I said I'm not feeling that. I am not feeling that. So when I got home I did not feel at peace and I called the lady in our ward who does family names and I said, okay, I need you to check the McGinty families on this line. I need you to see if that was the last one. And the lady calls me back and says all of it's been done except for one. Sister has nothing done.
Scott Brandley:Wow.
Jan Burger:I was just like, okay, and that's the one I'm doing next. And I seriously did not feel at peace until I got hers done, wow, and it was so interesting how I didn't I assumed it was, and when I was crying it was not a feeling of accomplishment, it was a feeling of you're not done. So the blessing came that I sent the name to my brother and said have your daughter, get this name done and send it to this family group thing. Now, right, and it was. When it got done, I felt so much more peace and it was such a feeling of peace and so it was just it's so important for those names, they want their work done and for my dad to tell me.
Jan Burger:Then, when we went back to the temple and then I was going through, and all of a sudden, that's when I heard my dad again and he said this is your mission, this is your mission, this is the work that needs to be done. I'm over here teaching him. I was like I would do it for my dad. My dad grew up in a family that his parents joined the church. Both fell away from the church. My dad ended up having someone in his ward that took him to church and brought him to church each week and my dad ended up going in the military and he was in the military for a while and then he came back and that's when he met my mom and they were married and my dad became a seminary teacher and that meant everything to him.
Scott Brandley:That's awesome.
Alisha Coakley:That is awesome, wow. So how long ago was this that this happened? Was it recently or a few?
Jan Burger:years ago.
Alisha Coakley:Years ago, okay, gotcha. So since then, how has your temple attendance and the work that you've done for your ancestors, how is that going? How has that looked?
Jan Burger:To me it's been very interesting because I'm going to do these names and then all of a sudden I know that's not the name. This is the name I have to take today.
Alisha Coakley:Really.
Jan Burger:Interesting.
Alisha Coakley:Wow, that's really cool.
Jan Burger:And it's like I don't know, a feeling of peace that comes when they're completed all the way.
Scott Brandley:How do you feel that this temple work has helped strengthen your testimony, or has it helped your family at all With their testimonies?
Jan Burger:I don't know that it has my family. That's a continual prayer. Continual prayer. Hopefully they learn from it, because I've had quite a few of my kids who have left the church, yeah, but there was a day and this was one thing that I didn't think I was going to talk about. But I was just laying there looking out the window and all of a sudden I heard Christ and he said when I come, they will know me. You have taught them, wow, wow. And I was like such a feeling of peace that I was like thank you, I needed to hear that because I have taught them. Does that mean they're going to get it? No, but will they remember him? Yes, they will. Wow, that's awesome.
Scott Brandley:I think people needed to hear that, so I appreciate you sharing that Jen.
Alisha Coakley:For sure. Okay, I'm curious do you often go to the temple by yourself, like without your family? I know you go with a friend.
Jan Burger:I can't because I can't drive, I can't see.
Alisha Coakley:Right. So do you have family that goes with you too, or is it mostly just you and your friend?
Jan Burger:Me and my friend and then our ward has been doing a temple night and there's another lady in our ward that I've connected with from years ago and I'd say this month her and her husband come and pick me up and she understands, because she's when my friend hasn't been able to go. This other lady has gone in with me and brings me in and she knows how to get me in with the wheelchair and everything and she is everything, she's got it and she'll be there.
Alisha Coakley:The reason I was asking is just because I know, when I first started attending the temple, I didn't have family at all that could go to the temple with me, and I kept hearing all of these stories of how much peace you would have and how all these people had all these experiences, and so I had been expecting all of that, but it was almost like a bitter sweetness.
Alisha Coakley:I was so grateful to be there and I felt this calm and I knew that what I was doing was right. But there were times where I would feel so sad because my family wasn't there. I remember just being like looking off to the side and not having a husband with me, or not having my siblings that could go with me, or my parents or whatever else, and I struggled a lot with that for years and years before my husband joined the church. I struggled with how do I feel those feelings in the temple when the temple's main purpose is connecting family, and I don't have any family that I'm able to connect with. So but I was just thinking about this I never brought any names to the temple with me of my own. I always just did whatever names were there, you would love it.
Alisha Coakley:I was going to say, which I think you know of course it's a beautiful thing and they all need to be done and essentially we're all family. But I wonder how my temple experience could have been different if I brought my own family with me. It makes a difference. I was wondering about that because you just have this peace about you and I'm like something's clicking in my head like maybe this is part of the reason why we do our family history and why we bring our own names to the temple so that we can partake in that bigger feeling of peace and purpose. You know, that's really interesting. My mom is a hard core now. She goes to the temple all the time. She loves it and she's a hard core like she has all the family history. So I'm just like good job, mom.
Jan Burger:She does all the work.
Alisha Coakley:I don't do any of the work. Even with all the work, I still don't bring names to the temple.
Jan Burger:I'm just like nope, we'll just show up and I'll just go and pick whoever, okay you need to get her to do the family group one, because the lady I go with, I told her about it and she got it set up with her family and then you can have it listed of who needs baptisms, who needs initiatory, who needs what. Then Okay, so I'm not even familiar with this the family can do that together.
Scott Brandley:Can you tell us a little more about that?
Jan Burger:Okay, if you go in and there's the temple, there's a temple family and if you do the temple family my brother was the one who set it up and he has to okay each person to get in. You have to be cleared by this person who is overseeing it, which was my brother, so he would have to push an okay for those people that he wanted in to it. So we have quite a few family members that are now on it and I had a specific name that I'm like. Nope, I need to print this name off right now. So I just printed off a couple of names that I'll be taking in, because they were not the ones that I was thinking of taking when I go, and they will be my ones I'm taking this week and next week.
Alisha Coakley:That sounds so cool so I just I had to look it up real quick. So it's through familysearchorg and it looks like they have. If you go to the website they have up on the accounts they have family groups. And it looks like you can, you can set that up that way. Yes we'll have to put a link in the description to this little article that I just found.
Jan Burger:That's because it is great my brother doing that. It was like that.
Alisha Coakley:I mean my brother and I switch names, that in the mail we smell them to each other, and I was like this is so nice, that is so cool and I can imagine that could even be, I mean just for the because I'm competitive, right, it could be kind of fun like ooh, look how many I did. You know what I like, that you're kind of like that one first. I think sometimes we just need a little family competition.
Alisha Coakley:No that is that is a really cool feature. I love how the church is continually like taking taking advantage of technology that we have available today and just creating so many good resources for us. Yes, you know, I mean this is, this is fantastic. I might actually bring some of my own family names to the temple.
Jan Burger:It does make a big difference. Yeah, it really does, and it's not because you know the person. I mean I know it was a McGinty and I know I'm doing a lot of McGinty, but it was. It was beyond that. It was like why am I crying? And my friend said they must be happy and I said I'm not feeling that. And it was so nice to find out there was one more girl that had nothing done. Wow.
Scott Brandley:Yeah, what a cool story. My question is not on that topic, but it's about going to the temple with just like having a disability.
Jan Burger:Yes.
Scott Brandley:I'm wondering if people don't go because they're afraid of how it would work you know if they'll be able to get around if there's going to be people there to help them. Can you maybe share a little bit of your experience?
Jan Burger:Okay, there's been a few times that I've gone in with my husband to do seal, a family and stuff, that I have gone in my temple dress because it's too hard for me to get around and to go and change and stuff. So when my husband and I have gone, I go already with my temple dress on and I go and get it and I go and just then I use the wheelchair. Usually people will help you at that point. There's people there that will help in getting you in if you need to. And seriously, when we go at the very last of the rows there's one place that you can have a little extra space and that's where the wheelchair goes and their space. The church has got it set up so nice and so smooth that you could do it and it may be hard. It might be hard at first, but you know what miracles happen. It will come together. If you feel that you should, then act upon it.
Alisha Coakley:Do you feel like going to the temple has helped you physically at all in regards to your disability, or is it more of like a mental and spiritual help?
Jan Burger:Mental and spiritual, yeah, but that's where the blessing is. You know, people getting through things is hard. It's not fun when life is trial and trial. Okay, I will tell you what happened. When I went to the temple two weeks ago, I cried like no other. Again, not comfortable with crying, I'm not a crier that likes this.
Alisha Coakley:We're really pushing you out of your comfort zone, huh.
Jan Burger:Yes, you are. So I went up and I had the given name and I had it the whole time and then when it was time for me to go up, it was completely gone, nothing. And I was like I had it and I was like, okay, I need to accept help from the lady at the veil and I did, and it was awful, I didn't want help, I knew it and I think it was uh no, you need to learn, because then after I got done and then we went into the celestial room and I was just bawling because what I heard when I left was you need to accept help from others. That is not what I want to hear. So that's my learning experience that I need to be willing to accept help.
Scott Brandley:That's hard. It's hard to accept help. Yes, sometimes you know but it was interesting.
Jan Burger:The next Sunday, when that was still in my head, my husband just got out of surgery. He wasn't going to be in the church. Nobody else was going into church and all of a sudden it came to my head again accept help from others. So I called my home teacher and said can you and your wife pick me up on the way to church? That's, that was tough, yeah, but it's me having to learn that you need to be willing to accept help from others.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah.
Scott Brandley:Yeah.
Alisha Coakley:See, my brain is similar to yours. I don't I don't really like asking for help. We got it all, but I do it. I'm just, I'm more. It's more of like uh, no, like I don't want anyone else to do anything because I want it done my way. So I have a. I have a really hard time letting go of control, but I was thinking about it. I'm like I know how many times I've been blessed by being able to help other people out and sometimes, for example, I have.
Alisha Coakley:I have a friend of mine, her name is Ro and she recently passed away and she, she had a, she had Lou Gehrig's, and so she became very, very wheelchair bound and a lot of her muscles locked up and and towards the end, um, she came and stayed with us for a short period of time and I had never, I never experienced having to take care of anybody and having to actually help lift them up into the wheelchair and out of the wheelchair, and especially when, when she was, you know, her body's fighting against itself, it was like anytime she wanted to put her arm out, it would just pull back in. So you were I mean, it was really, really difficult in in trying to get her comfortable. And, um, and I thought about it and I thought I'm so glad that she trusted me to be able to help her for a short time, because it not only helped me know more deeply like what she was going through, but I feel like it put me in a position where I then was able to gain more knowledge on how to help. You know, that was something I'd never done before, and then, on top of that, I got to watch my husband and my kids and even my parents they were staying with me at the time Um, I got to see how they were able to help.
Alisha Coakley:You know, things like my son, um Ro, loved music, and so my son, he was just just learning how to play the guitar and he only knew one song and um, and so once we would get her into bed and everything like that, she would just ask you know, oh, can Nate come and play that song on the guitar? It was the same song every night, you know and he would, he would take his guitar and he would fumble through and and we would just like put her to. It was like a lullaby, she was putting her to sleep and it was such a sweet, tender experience and I loved being able to see the way that that happened.
Alisha Coakley:And then my oldest son. He was so much stronger than me and taller, and so it was easier for him to navigate lifting her up, and for a teenage boy it can be very uncomfortable, um, helping a woman to go to the bathroom, but I couldn't do it by myself, and there were times where it was just him and I at home and so we had to have. We had to cross that that line where it was so uncomfortable for us because we didn't know what we were doing. Um, but it was so wonderful as a mom to be able to watch him push past those, those comfort boundaries himself, knowing that he was doing something that could help. And so I do know how hard it is. But I also know the blessings of serving and and that gift of being able to ask to be served. They are so wide, you, you went with the spirit.
Jan Burger:There was a reason why you needed to be there, and you acted on it.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah, and I don't think we'll know all the reasons or all the ways that it that services helped us until we crossover. Is that next realm?
Alisha Coakley:And we actually have the ability to, to fully comprehend, comprehend, like, people's emotions and experiences and and the feelings that we have. But, um, but yeah, I just think I'm so grateful that you, that you shared that part with us, because I do think that a lot of the times we we feel like we're a burden, you know, and we're really not it's, it's a blessing in every sense of the word. It is a blessing to be able to serve others.
Scott Brandley:Yeah, you know what's. What's interesting about that is, in our old war, Alicia, it felt like there was a lot of people that needed help, Right.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah.
Scott Brandley:So I I got. I felt like that was part of who I like, not who I was, but like gave me some purpose to fill needed. But in my new war it's hard because people are a lot more independent. So I really struggled when I moved here to where I live now because I felt like there was an almost like this need, that need to help others, but there wasn't really much to do.
Scott Brandley:And I felt kind of lost, yeah, and so I've had to look like, look like, actually look for ways to help people. But yeah, it's just interesting, different times of life and different, different places and things. But yeah, there is a need to help people. If we don't give them that opportunity, we, we, they miss out on on those opportunities and and they have that longing to help that's not fulfilled, which is something that we don't normally think about.
Alisha Coakley:Right yeah, wow.
Jan Burger:Even through hard things, we have to have our focus beyond, because that's where right now is, with right now. The thought that keeps coming into my head is recognize the blessings. They may not be I'm running around and I can do it. No, there are blessings, and when you stop to be aware of them and recognize them, that in itself is a blessing to recognize the blessings around you.
Scott Brandley:Yeah, that's nice, I like that Jen.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah, it makes me think of President Nelson's recent talk at conference where he said to think celestial. You know, yes, I think that's a very celestial thing to do is to, like Scott was saying, seek for ways to serve, but also to have that perspective of blessings. You know, like, where are the blessings and how can I see them in an unconventional way? You know where it's not just like the most evident of them, but how can this be a blessing to so many other people? You know?
Jan Burger:Yeah.
Scott Brandley:Well, Jen, it's been amazing having you on the show and hearing some of your stories and your experiences about the temple. Is there anything that you'd like to share as we wrap up? Any last thoughts or spiritual experiences you'd like to leave the viewers with today?
Jan Burger:The only thing I can think of is, if you find family names, bring them in. If you don't, there are others waiting to have their work done. Be in and get work done for them, yeah.
Alisha Coakley:I love that. That's awesome. And yeah, if you're lonely going to the temple, bring your family with you, whether they're alive or dead, right.
Scott Brandley:Well, I think, I think it's interesting.
Jan Burger:Right, I think, just happen to come up when I have a couple that my husband need to cut for me, that I'm like I don't know why those weren't the ones I was doing next. Yeah, but they are now.
Scott Brandley:I think another lesson out of this episode is if you don't feel like you can go to the temple, ask somebody for help.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah.
Scott Brandley:Right.
Jan Burger:Yeah exactly, and that's where, if you get the family name thing set up, it's set up for others in your family to take those names in also.
Alisha Coakley:Yeah, yeah, that's. I'm really excited about looking that up. I'm going to have to call my mom and be like hey, here you go, what is up? Yup, Nice, oh well, Jan, it has been such a delight having you on. You have such a such a sweet spirit about you and I'm so glad that you're open with us about your experiences and your trials and, of course, with the blessings that you've received from being able to, you know, bring your family names to the temple and to do that work. And I think that there was a whole lot of little mini lessons in your, in your story, and so I'm I'm really grateful to you for just listening to the spirit and reaching out to us, even though it was really scary and really uncomfortable and you know being well.
Jan Burger:Well, and I would like to say there was one guy a couple of weeks ago when he bore his testimony he went to the temple for the first time and took his step. Well, his father adopted him and he took his name in and got it done, and I said that in itself is doing missionary work, yeah.
Scott Brandley:Totally, absolutely Well. Thanks again, jan, and thank you everyone for tuning in and hearing Jan's story today. We really appreciate you being here and, like we said, if you have a story and you're afraid or hesitant to share it, please do Take, take Jan, take Jan's example and just go on to Latterday Lightscom and shoot us a message, because the things that Jan shared are important and people need to hear those things and everybody has a story and your story is important and if you don't share it, then it's only with you, right, and with the people immediately around you the benefit from it. Where this is? This platform, latterday Lights is really a platform to get that story out to as many people as we can so we can share light and and enlighten and lift everyone as many people as we can. So take her example, get out there, share the story and let's have you on the show.
Alisha Coakley:Yes, well, be sure that you guys let us know what your favorite part of the show was today. If you guys had any questions or comments or experiences of your own that you would, you would like to kind of share with us, that would be great. That's another great way of of sharing light is even just through commenting and and clicking that little share button, doing your five second missionary work. So with that we will have another episode of Latterday Lights for you guys next week. I hope everyone has a beautiful week and, jan, thank you again for coming on here. We really appreciate you.
Scott Brandley:Thank you, guys, thanks.
Alisha Coakley:All right, guys, we'll see you next Sunday. Have a good one.
Scott Brandley:Take care.